Welcome to the 6th installment of the Battlehouse Dev Blog, a place where fans of all Battlehouse games can enjoy regular behind the scenes peaks into the minds of Battlehouse Developers. Last week, bh-nirgal took a deep dive into some of the current projects he’s working on for Battlefront Mars, and this week he’s providing us all some updates on his War Star Empire, Mars Frontier, Thunder Run, and Days of Valor projects. So without further adieu, here’s bh-nirgal:
War Star Empire and Mars Frontier Developments
War Star Empire has received a lot of dev cycles over the past year, thanks mostly to the presence of Promethium in the game. The three currencies allowed a 1 to 1 conversion and reskin of the turret system in Thunder Run, Days of Valor and Firestrike. I have a few minor changes in the pipeline, but I want to give players time to finish off the Central Computer L8 tier of content.Ā I do have some questions for players:
Would you prefer more levels of existing units, elite versions of existing units, both, or neither?
Would you like more defenses like mines, or no?
Would you like to be able to swap out the security teams on your buildings with ones made up of different units?
Mars Frontier is our quietest group of fans. Other than making an Opportunity Rover building security team add-on in memorial to our little rover friend, I havenāt spent much time working on Mars Frontier, and Iāve never received any requests or feedback from the player base. Is there anything you all would like to see, or are you pretty happy right now?
Thunder Run and Days of Valor Developments
Days of Valor has had the economy portion of the TOC12 patch for two weeks, and will get the Infantry patch tomorrow. Thunder Run is getting the economy portion of the TOC12 patch tomorrow. Portions of this patch will automatically unlock through January.
Now that this project has shipped, Iāll be tackling a major redesign of the introduction tutorial and rebalance of lower levels of content. There are two versions of the new player tutorial being tested in Days of Valor. We try to test and fine-tune things like these to see if we can figure out what will acquire and retain more new players. Based on the numbers in Days of Valor, weāll either incorporate the new tutorial into Thunder Run as-is, or make tweaks to both the Days of Valor and Thunder Run versions. Once this is ready, weāll be launching some new ad campaigns. I hope this will answer some of the good player questions we had on what weāre doing to grow the game.
While this is going on, I am working on some small UI changes and improvements. Iām testing the ability to move buildings that are being constructed, repaired, or are crafting in Days of Valor. Its release to the other games is pending.
I added in the ability to toggle the advisor and opponent AI portraits. It was deployed to Days of Valor for testing on October 26, and will be added to Thunder Run on October 31.
Looking for an update on where the Dev Team currently stands regarding various recent community suggestions? Check out our new “Voice of the Commander” trackers below:
(the Mars Frontier and Days of Valor feedback trackers are currently empty – let us know what you want to see over on Discord!)
Like what you see in this Dev Blog, or have suggestions on things you’d like to see addressed in our “Voice of the Commander” trackers? Let us know over on our Thunder Run Discord Server!
This week in Thunder Run, and all other Battlehouse Games: our on-site Forums will be archived and will be officially replaced with the new Thunder Run Discord Server, which offers exciting benefits like voice chat, better moderation features, and official “Ask a Dev” events. Clan HQ will also be closing down at a later date.
Forums Transition to Discord
Effective this Wednesday, October 30th: the Battlehouse.com Forums will be put into “archive mode” and will no longer be allowing new posts. The forums will remain in read-only status so that various popular player guides and feedback records will still be accessible for your reference.
A banner at the top of the forums will re-direct everyone to our official Thunder Run Discord Server where our Community and Design teams will continue to participate in chats with the player-base, and continue to log all player feedback for future game design considerations.
Clan HQ Transition to Discord
At a later “to be decided” date, Clan HQ will also be shutting down and redirecting players to Discord in a similar fashion.
Players who routinely use Clan HQ are encouraged to start using the Thunder Run Discord Server as we work towards finalizing this transition. Clan HQ users from other Battlehouse Games will find an “Other Battlehouse Games” section in the list of available Discord channels where they can continue chatting about their favorite Battlehouse game in the appropriate game channel as they were in Clan HQ.
If there is enough player demand for any particular Battlehouse Game other than Thunder Run, the Community team may choose to create separate dedicated Discord servers for other games.
More information about the specific date of the Clan HQ migration will be coming soon.
Heads up, Commander! It’s an armor unit upgrade extravaganza! The Level 15 HMMWV, M1064A3 Mortar, Stryker ICV, M109 Paladin, M2 Bradley, and M1 Abrams are here.
As with the recent max unit level increases, your Level 15 HMMWV, M1064A3 Mortar, Stryker ICV, M109 Paladin, M2 Bradley, and M1 Abrams will also feature improved stats and no increase in battalion space requirements. As with any improvement in power, there is an increase in cost, production time, and repair time.
The Level 15 HMMWV, M1064A3 Mortar, Stryker ICV, M109 Paladin, M2 Bradley, and M1 Abrams upgrades require a blueprint that can only be purchased during Hardware Event Weeks in the Hardware Prize Store. We will continue to release similar levels in this catch-up mechanic boost to more core units going forward. Good hunting, Commanders!
Heads up, Commander! As of today, the Elite Mortarman L7+ Blueprints and Sub-Components are back and available for all! No need to grab the L7 blueprint if you didn’t get it before. Just start upgrading!
A hotfix for the Elite AH-64 Apache has been applied, effective right now:
The turret stunning Elite AH-64 Apache unit was originally designed to only be able to stun turrets, however a bug was brought to our attention recently that was inadvertently causing it to also be able to stun other aircraft units. The Elite AH-64 was never intended to be able to stun other aircraft, and this is now corrected. Please note that the Elite AH-64 will still be able to attack and do damage to other aircraft, but will not be able to stun them.
We appreciate those of you in the Community who brought this issue to our attention, and we thank you all in advance for your understanding.
Heads up, Commander! It’s an infantry unit upgrade extravaganza! The Level 15 Rifleman, Mortarman, Machine Gunner, and Sniper are here.
As with the recent max unit level increases, your Level 15 Rifleman, Mortarman, Machine Gunner, and Sniper will also feature improved stats and no increase in battalion space requirements. As with any improvement in power, there is an increase in cost, production time, and repair time.
The Level 15 Rifleman, Mortarman, Machine Gunner, and Sniper upgrades require a blueprint that can only be purchased during Hardware Event Weeks in the Hardware Prize Store. We will continue to release similar levels in this catch-up mechanic boost to more core units going forward. Good hunting, Commanders!
Welcome to the 3rd installment of the Battlehouse Dev Blog, a place where fans of all Battlehouse games can enjoy regular behind the scenes peaks into the minds of Battlehouse Developers. This week bh-nirgal will be diving deep into three active projects he’s currently working for Thunder Run and Days of Valor. So without further adieu, here’s bh-nirgal:
Thunder Run/Days of Valor Developments
There are three major projects underway for our flagship game and its sister game.
The first project, slated for release in Q4 2019, is the TOC12 tier. The Tactical Operations Center will be one of the new armed buildings. Starting at level 12, players can mount special turrets on the roof of the TOC. The turret designs currently in testing are built on the concept of the Long Range Acoustic Device (LRAD), meant to disorient and debuff incoming troops while doing little damage. It will have a much greater range than other turrets. For players who prefer a damage-dealer, the TOC will also have its own version of the High Energy Laser (HEL). Unlike turret HELs, the TOC HEL can target ground and air targets, at the cost of somewhat decreased damage. As part of this update, all mobile units will have their level caps raised to 16.
The second project, which should follow quickly on the heels of TOC12, is an overhaul of the Vault building. Every TOC level will get 2 vault levels. At the second level per tier, the vault will store enough hardware to be able to repair the base itself and the most expensive possible combination of Base Defenders units. The first level will be halfway between the old cap and the new cap. So let’s throw out some wildly inaccurate numbers and say it costs 300k Hardware to fully repair a TOC8 base and the best (or at least most hardware-expensive) army units in the game. If you have a level 16 Vault, you have that much saved from attackers. You can immediately start repairing. You can’t necessarily repair your field batts or protect what you have saved for research, but you can get your base back in business.
The third project, slated for an uncertain future date, is a rebalancing of the TOC tiers. This is one of the less-defined plans, and player feedback is highly encouraged. Ideally, Iād like to see the average player base level increase so that the top-tier players have worthwhile opponents to fight and the average player can hold their own. This would involve reducing research and building times for lower building levels and lower tech levels, and would involve reducing prices for older blueprints (or removing them altogether for some lower turret levels).
Thereās some delicate terrain to navigate here. The game lives or dies based on players who pay to play. We cannot change that. So long as internet infrastructure costs money and so long as we have to pay our rent and pay to eat, we canāt make an entirely free game. Many of the players who pay to play are touchy about other players getting for free what they paid for.
Iād like to come up with a compromise. My plan is to divide the player base into a rookie tier, a regular tier, a veteran tier, and an elite tier, based on unlocked content.
The Elite Tier would always be the newest level of content, in this case all the stuff requiring TOC level 12. It doesnāt change until the theoretical release of TOC13, and is intended to give non-paying players at least six months of construction and research projects to complete. There are many players who wonāt play if thereās nothing new to acquire, so the top tier needs to cater to this type of motivation.
The Veteran Tier is the last two levels of content, the stuff requiring TOC levels 10 and 11. It gets a slight nerf in ONP/hardware prices, research times, and build times, but no more than a 5% cut. Iād like to see players go from Veteran to Elite in half a year or less.
The Regular Tier is everything from TOC level 6 through TOC level 9. This gets a decent nerf in prices, research times, and build times, but never more than a 20% cut. Iād like to see players go from Regular to Veteran in a quarter of a year or less.
The Rookie Tier is everything at or below TOC level 5. This gets a generous nerf in prices, research times, and build times, up to a 50% cut. Iād like to see new players go from Rookie to Regular in less than a month. Sprinkled into the nerfs would be some removals of blueprint requirements.
How would it make you, the veteran players, feel if newcomers got for free some of the things you worked long and hard to acquire? Does the thought of new faces to fight and befriend make it worth it, or does it bother you to see cheaper availability? Please send me your thoughts.
Like what you see in this Dev Blog, or have suggestions on things you’d like to see Nirgal talk about in the future? Let us know over on our Thunder Run Discord Server (for Thunder Run players), or on Clan HQ (for all other games). See you all next week!
Welcome back to the 2nd installment of the Battlehouse Dev Blog, a place where fans of all Battlehouse games can enjoy regular behind the scenes peaks into the minds of Battlehouse Developers. This week bh-nirgal will be recapping our recent 2nd ever Thunder Run Discord Dev AMA, as well as expanding deeper into a few of the great questions that were brought up. So without further adieu, here’s bh-nirgal:
Discord AMA Recap
Our Dev Talk/AMA session from October 4 was a ton of fun. I (Nirgal) greatly appreciated your comments and questions. Weāll be sure to do this again soon.
#1 – Mystic Puzzle asked: Are we going to get Poacher and Virus single player campaigns back anytime soon?
Our response: This has been on the dev wishlist for months now. It dropped behind some engine changes and major content patches in multiple games, but I do believe weāll be able to devote some time to bringing back these events. They most likely wonāt be in the regular ONP schedule, but it wouldnāt be out of the question to see them in the Hardware week line-up.
More thoughts: I know a lot of players want to obtain the achievements related to these events, so when we get to the point where we can launch these, weāll be sure to keep the achievements enabled. This is now officially a work in progress. Kim will make the first return, but I wonāt have an ETA until I finish dusting off the old maps and deciding where to insert them into the schedule.
#2 – MamaSandy asked: Nirgal did I read your blog right that to have interactive batt fight need a different platform?
Our response: @MamaSandy, the engine doesnāt currently support truly head-to-head combat with two human controllers in game. The closest we have is a click-race to be the human in charge of a battalion vs battalion fight. Thatās led to a lot of frustration and complaints from various groups of players who want the game to work in different ways. My blog entry on it was brainstorming/idle chat about possible changes to the system. Nothing is happening right now. If you liked any of the ideas (or really hated them), weād love to hear.
#3 – mehedi kaisar asked: whats your plan about bringing new players i tr ? all i see is if there anynew member of tr its a alt and its really make me sad
Our response: Different members of the team focus on different parts of this.Ā Bh-nirgal and bh-cameron are focusing on making the tutorial process easier, weāre tailoring ad campaigns, and streamlining the upgrade process to make it easier for new players to survive and feel like thereās a reason to come back and play. Thereās a lot about this in the next dev blog post, but the bottom line is that weāre working on making low level content easier and with a gentler learning curve to bring them into the war! Best thing you can do to help is let your friends know about Thunder Run! š
#4 – Steelrain asked: Do you think we’ll ever see Level 5 leaders?
Our response: Absolutely, beyond a doubt.Ā You can also expect to NOT have to build another level 4 leader to get your level 5 leader. You will just need your current level 4 leader and one other thing that youāll be able to get pretty easily.Ā Expect it in the upcoming content patches.
More details: Youāll still be combining your L4 leader with something to promote the leader to L5. It will most likely be a Promotion Papers, an item that you buy from the Leaders section of the store for slightly more than the cost of an L1 leader.
#5 – mehedi kaisar asked: the recent changes of advanced air units making all other units look poor …. so i feel there is an imbalance between unit right now … do you guys have any idea to make the balance between ground air and infantry?
Our response: Good question.Ā We did just release a major boost to the Elite Machine Gunner, though it is a secondary air defense unit. We also released three new levels for the Elite Rifleman.Ā That being said, the Stingers might need some love, as well as some of the anti-air turrets. Weāll have to run through a few battles and try some different mixes. We donāt want the E-Apache turning into the E-TOS of the skiesā¦
More thoughts: Expect some love for the Elite Gaz Tigr and Elite Nimr soon.
#6 – Steelrain asked: When will we see an elite blackhawk that can carry elite riflemen?
Our response: We could do it within the month if youād be happy with it suiciding the way the UH-60 does, but Iām planning to devote some dev cycles to a non-suicidal Elite Blackhawk and a non-suicidal revision to the UH-60.Ā The engine currently only supports releasing units if the āmotherā unit dies. I think the tech investment is worthwhile, so Iām planning to get that done first.
#7 – mehedi kaisar asked: a boost for c ram ?
Our response: Probably.
More thoughts: Definitely.
#8 – Mystic Puzzle asked: Regarding the Vault, the amount protected seems way too low and the costs are way too high. I think it should be like a certain percentage protected everytime the Vault gets upgraded. Say, for max level should be 30% of fuel and supply resources protected and 50% hardware protected. As hardware is just extremely hard to loot so much and even 1 attack can just deplete all that hard-earned hardware to go poof, as why 50% seems reasonable, while the others a lower percentage.
Our response: Here’s what I posted on ClanHQ regarding the vault.Ā Bear in mind, these are general concepts, not concrete figures:
Every TOC level will get 2 vault levels (24 total after the upcoming TOC12 patch). At the second level per tier, the vault will store enough hardware to be able to repair the base itself and the most expensive Base Defenders units. The first level will be halfway between the old cap and the new cap. So let’s throw out some wildly inaccurate numbers and it costs 300k Hardware to fully repair a TOC8 base and the best (or at least most hardware-expensive) army units in the game. If you have a level 16 Vault, you have that much saved from attackers. You can immediately start repairing. You can’t necessarily repair your field batts or protect what you have saved for research, but you can get your base back in business. Ignore the current costs of the vault, I plan on slashing them.
#9 – WarlordKirk asked: Have you guys thought about making a map for level 39 and below only? To keep new players from getting discouraged by the big bases being bullies?
Our response: Thought about it, yes.Ā Come to an accord as a team, no.Ā There are competing schools of thought on how to give newcomers the genuine Thunder Run experience or to keep them on a guided and safe path to learn the ropes.Ā Weāll be discussing this further during our new player experience overhaul, which weāll be working on as soon as the next major content patch is out the door.
More details: Cameron and Nirgal have in-depth discussion of this as an agenda item for the newbie experience overhaul. If it gets implemented, you all will know. If it doesnāt, weāll at least acknowledge it and go over our reasons why not when the newbie overhaul is complete.
#10 – MamaSandy asked: is there any more consideration being given to be able to gift warehouse items to other clan players?
Our response: Sure, which items in particular are you interested in gifting?
More thoughts: (weād be happy to receive some suggestions here. If there was a follow-up question during the dev talk, I missed it. Sorry!)
#11 – Mehedi kaisar asked: as per now vault is auto but is there any possibility it can be manual like we can save a certain amount of resource when our depots are full and when we used the res of depots we collect from vault ?
Our response: The vault doesnāt really work like that. Itās just another storage slot that happens to be invulnerable. The engine doesnāt support anything like what youāre describing. How often do you think a feature like this would be useful? It would be a pretty major investment of time to add a feature like this.
#12 – Mystic Puzzle asked:Ā For the Vault, how about if we have the ability to choose resources of our choice. To be honest, rather have all hardware protected than the other 2. If possible, can we have the ability to do that?
Our response: Hmm, thatās an interesting idea. The engine could conceivably support this, but only in a very clunky way. Weād have to make a Supply Vault, Fuel Vault, and Hardware Vault building, each of which must be deconstructed before building one of the others. Or we could make an equip slot that changes which one it stores, but that would eat warehouse space. Making it not require a bunch of clicks would mean engine changes. š Iāll definitely think about it, but I think you all will like the planned Vault changes. Iām afraid we canāt make Hardware risk-free, but we will be making a lot of defenses easier to acquire.
#13 – Yooshijin asked: any update on an elite humvee?
Our response: Eventually. Weāre working our way down the list. Any thoughts on what sort of loadout youād like to see? Any special abilities?
More thoughts: This might be an ideal platform for the engine changes that will allow for two automatic weapons. Right now, the engine supports one automatic weapon controlled by the AI and one special weapon controlled by the āeā key. What would you all think of an Elite Humvee supporting a machine gun for ground troops and a Stinger launcher for helicopters? This would mean it wouldnāt be out soon, as the code changes would be significant.
#14 – Bastian asked: How about a bounty system where players can take out contracts on others?
Our response: No engine supportā¦ but I love the idea. Weāve discussed internally a āblack opsā mission type where you can hide your identity when taking a bounty, but the person who posted the bounty is disclosedā¦ unless you fail the attack! Then youāre exposed! No timeline for such a feature, but I definitely want to tackle it.
#15 – mehedi kaisar asked: how can we edit our base setup more easily ?
Our response: A base editor program has been on my features wishlist since I started working here. I canāt offer a timeline for it, but I promise that I havenāt forgotten about it. My blueprint includes stored layouts so youād be able to swap them around.
#16 – MamaSandy: anything in the works to maybe “beautify” the base ei roads and or trees? be nice to try and hide things a little.
Our response: Nothing in the works, no. I should add this to the requirements list for the eventual base editor.
#17 – Steelrain asked: Are players still getting all unit range boosts or have those gone away?Ā I haven’t seen one in a long time.
Our response: The drop rates for the strong all-unit range boosts were nerfed a while back because, based on a survey of battle replays we looked at, they were un-balancing combat quite badly (making whole swathes of units/turrets obsolete due to range limitations).
#18 – Shininson asked: are there any new plans for actual new turret heads aka tesla coils or something.. or long range rocket artilary like v2 rocket in original c&c or since we have air that stuns air … maybe vehicles that stun vehicles lol
Our response: The Long Range Acoustic Device is our first new weapon type. A nasty sonic weapon (which is based on real tech) disorients, slows, and debuffs enemy units. Vehicles that stun vehiclesā¦ maybe that can be the Elite HMMWVās speciality.
#19 – Raider150 asked: when toc12 coming?
Our response: Very, very soon. I am working on two art assets, then we should be ready to launch.
More details: Days of Valor should see the first part of the release on October 17. This is a multi-stage release, so expect new content to activate every two weeks from release through January.
#20 – Achmed asked: When bats are traveling on ma why can’t we call to a new location before bat arrives at first waypoint?
Our response: You can cancel bat movement and re-direct after the cancel. But the bat still has to āsnapā to the next hex on its path first. This is because the server tracks bat movement hex-by-hex, so it isnāt possible to change anything when a bat is between hexes. Itās sort of in a āghostā state at that point.
#21 – Upendra asked: Why there is limit of 5 on unit boosts in each slot in Warehouse? and the shields only one? can we make it as equal to the Missiles?
Our response: Some of it is, admittedly, arbitrary. Iāve seen in many games that players can succumb to āhoard it for the final bossā syndrome, and limiting space can often serve a good purpose in game design. Scarcity keeps a player focused on making choices. If you can have everything, youāre not really strategizing. One solution Iāve thought of is to increase the stack, but make items expire, perhaps after a month of sitting in storage. Even military hardware has a shelf life.
More details: If we implemented such a solution, existing items would be grandfathered to keep their existing stack limits and lack of expiration date.
#22 – Mystic Puzzle asked: PvP suggestion: If a player fails to do at least 50% base damage why can’t they lose PvP and the defending base gets the points instead? (600 maps and this also includes all other BH games)
Our response: This would make it too easy to farm up PvP points by setting up fake battles against allies/alts. Maybe if we limited PvP point gain/loss only to specific, server-chosen enemies. But I suspect that would be an unpopular option.
#23 – GrandadN asked: will there be more control over players using alts on non alt maps
Our response: Weāre continuing to improve alt detection systems. Quite a few alts get moved or banned automatically on a daily basis. If you notice alts on maps where they donāt belong, please send us a report using the in-game Contact Support button so we can investigate.
#24 – Jhun asked: Sirs. any chance of an anti-missiles troops?
Our response: I’m considering some art assets for our future units, and the Patriot missile system is among what I’d like to add.Ā It’d definitely have anti-missile.
#25 – Cyberton asked: Can we get 10gold for watching an ad?
Our response: Itās worth us discussing internally. Thanks for the suggestion.
Two general threads that did not get addressed during the chat were āghost battalionsā (a term players use for battalions with troops at a low percentage of their total HP) and āhardware stealingā (regional map AI bases with their Hardware Depots destroyed while leaving the rest of the base intact). Iāll be giving each of these a blog entry later down the road.
Like what you see in this Dev Blog, or have suggestions on things you’d like to see Nirgal talk about in the future? Let us know over on our Thunder Run Discord Server (for Thunder Run players), or on Clan HQ (for all other games). See you all next week!
Join us in the #general discussion channel of our Thunder Run Discord Serverright now for our 2nd community “Discord Dev AMA”. What does “AMA” stand for you ask? It means “Ask Me Anything”, and we’re letting you the players do just do that.
